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volodymyr zelenskyy. >> president biden has support for the people of ukraine and is unwavering. we support ukraine come not out of charity but because the people of ukraine and their future is an our strategic interest. >> although these talks are happening thousands of miles apart, the goal is singular. assuring key european allies at the united states is a reliable partner for joining us now is former january 6th select committee senior advisor and former congressman denver winkleman and w spokesperson julian porter. >> good morning. you have the vice president narrating for the world actually and where the administration is going and what the next important steps are about and putting money on the table, additional dollars on the table. how does that affect these

talks more broadly? and move the needle specifically here in the u.s. as everything is such a battle when it comes to ukraine and even with issues in israel? the administration still seems to have a plan they are executing and pushing on. truth be told, it does have some traction with folks at least in europe and in the talks themselves. >> number one, thank you for having me. i will say that what the vice president is doing and what the president did at the heels of the g7 just underscores unwavering support for ukraine and we know that protecting ukrainian security is undermining. it is very clear we need to support their territorial integrity and it is important for our partners in eu to do the same. >> especially because it is not just about ukraine, congressman. it is about the global order. i want to take a listen to what vice president harris had to say about additional funding for ukraine on saturday. >> today, i'm pleased to announce that united states

will provide more than 1. $5 billion to address ukraine's humanitarian and energy needs. president volodymyr zelenskyy, the support is a demonstration of the fact, the indisputable fact that the united states stands with the people of ukraine. >> congressman, i want you to talk about two things. one, the ways in which this is bigger than ukraine. an investment in ukraine, yes but also an investment and democracy at large. and the reality that was undeniably in the room as the vice president was having the meeting which is, the ability all of all of these plans and agreements to move forward hangs in the balance of this presidential election. everything is tenuous at best. >> it does. and happy father's day, mr. steel. you are looking dashing. when you talk about the

investments in other countries and if we don't support nato, or we don't support individuals who are on the edge of nato like ukraine, who is being invaded by a threatening force, i think we are in real trouble. 1999, i went to the romanian border with serbia when romania was pre-nato. i will remember the excitement of americans being there and i think that stability has not projected. i think the vice president did a great job doing that. and i'm stunned. if we went to the republican party in the early two thousands, even when michael was there, i don't think you would have any gop against an ukraine aid even if trump was about to be elected in november. for me, it is almost a head exploding thing that we are even having this debate about what will happen after november. >> let's just referring. part of the reason the debate exists is because of the erosion of the party by not

just the man who himself is going to be the republican nominee donald trump, but the apparatus of the republican party, apparatus that has propped him up and continues to a spouse the lies. it is unfounded. when you were at the u.n. as the spokesperson, spokesperson of the u.n., ambassador for greenfield, did the people think we were crazy? it seems as though it is very hard to read. if i'm france or the british or just anybody else in the world looking at america, i'm giving aside eye right now because i don't know what is going on. i hear joe biden and kamala harris. it sounds good and makes me feel good. then i see donald trump on the horizon and i remember what that was. >> let's take it back to four

years ago when the president was campaigning to be president with very ambitious goals. and all of our allies and partners and friends at the u.n. believe in the work and were pleased with the work ambassador greenfield is doing and that the president is doing and the vice president is doing. i will say this. we have a lot of noise and a lot of distractions. and i think we all know well that when someone shows you who they are, believe then the first time. i do believe donald trump what he says, if you were to take office again, he would remove us from nato and damage relationships with partners and allies and everything else he is doing i think they believe what they are seeing with the president. they believe what they are seeing with the vice president and they have faith in what we are doing and they want that continuity. >> to that point, believe what they say, and happy father's day to you too my friend. the words sometimes from trump make me go a little crazy. i want you to listen to what he

says about solving the problem in ukraine and how he sees that happening. >> before i even arrived at the oval office shortly after we win the presidency, i will have the horrible war between russia and ukraine settled. were going to get it settled and stop the death. >> this man can barely hold himself up. i'm trying to understand, and what universe does that happen? this is the political mismatch he puts out and a lot of folks in his ecosystem buy it. but to symone's point about the global partners out there. when they hear thus, it is not instilling confidence in them. it is instilling i think more fear. what is your take? >> i think it does. and if stability is so important -- when i talked about romania before, they wanted nato. it is seen as we are the

beacon. america has the ability as a stabilized force, on how to restructure. what you will see i think is that if president trump is reelected, we will have that slow decline and we might be there where america is not trusted in the world. think about the fragmentation of nato that would happen. and michael, there are a couple of things with people following him down this path. either they are completely cynical and they want to appear his talking points about ukraine or you have people that have no idea what is going to happen or don't know foreign policy. they are not particularly bright. maybe they are just stupid. i'm to the point -- i know you scratch your head about it. but i think we have a brutalization of the american psyche by people who have no idea what is going on in the world except for what they are being told by mar-a-lago. >> part of the reason i think european leaders are so nervous is that it is not just happening in the united states. we have watched the european election. we knew this was coming. 27 countries had far right

parties racking up gains. that is significant. >> it is very significant. i would note that in france for example, the person -- everybody remembers marine le pen, a little trump-ish, reminded people of that rash -- the young leader that emerge from the far right party in this election was somebody young. 27, 28 years old, appealed to the young people on tiktok, different than in the united states, polished. looks like something out of gq magazine. the far right is looking different around the world and i would argue, the turning point is a young people's organization. and one of the groups was a young people's organization. the idea that young people are not -- and i'm going to use

the term radicalized, people across the world being radicalized into the far right is absolutely happening. >> it is happening. and the political implications in eu are the total impetus of what is happening here. from the far right and the eu being able to the youth. in the united states, the youth are empowered and more left- leaning. they are the dutch a large part of the reason that the president became president four years ago. they have concerns today. they are still on tiktok. i would not classify them as radicalized but they are a major boding the block. >> that is the linchpin and the narrative. that is how they move the needle when they bring in the disinformation. >> we talked about this yesterday. nbc news did obtain a draft out of the summit. a joint communiqui on the peace

framework in switzerland. the quote notes "we had a fruitful comprehensive and constructive exchange of various views on pathways towards a framework for a comprehensive just and lasting peace, based on international law including the united nations charter." this is a draft. very notable, what vladimir putin thought he was trying to say about peace this week. thank you very much. appreciate your time. stay with us. we have been talking about campaigns. >> some politics. >> and we have a massive fundraising hall for president joe biden. and later we will talk to angela alsobrooks. she will join the table. you are watching the weekend! chase freedom unlimited. so, if you're off the racking... ...or crab cracking, you're cashbacking. cashback on flapjacks, baby backs, or tacos at the taco shack. nah, i'm working on my six pack. switch to a king suite- or book a silent retreat. silent retreat?

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including with economic policies. president biden wants to raise taxes on corporations and the wealthy to properly fund the government. trump on the other hand is proposing wild ideas like eliminating the income tax and replacing it with tariffs. according to cnbc at a meeting with ceos this last week, several executives found trump's pitch to be meandering. some felt he didn't even know what he was talking about. i am i not surprised about that? >> the former congresswoman from virginia is back with us. >> we just describe the meandering meeting on friday. take a listen. >> i will say that i was surprised. i spoke to a number of ceos who i would say walked into the meeting being trump supporter -ish or so they might be leaning in that direction saying he was meandering and

could not keep a straight thought and was all over the map and maybe not surprising. what is interesting to me is these are people who i think might have been predisposed to him. >> i encourage people to read the cnbc article on this. the ceos who were in the meeting with donald trump came out saying that not only was he meandering but in the cnbc reporting come they note he was unable to detail how any of his policies were going to be accomplished and he did not know what he was talking about. these are quotes from ceos. does not sound like a great business man to me. does this mean the folks will turn away from him? i did not hear anyone saying, i don't think i will be voting for donald trump anymore. >> if they were already predisposed to support him,

what are they thinking anyway? i'm not quite sure what you are thinking if your predisposed. what are you doing a going in their thinking you are number one. and why are we surprised? he is meandering and cannot get his faxed straight on some speeches. a couple weeks ago, he said his doctor ronnie johnson said he was cognitively perfect. but it is actually ronny jackson. somebody who cannot keep it straight. and i say the word rule because he says he wants to be a dictator through this populist xenophobic racist message. and that is what we have. somebody not policy specific and he will not surround himself with the best and brightest. we should be terrified going into a trump administration. >> let me follow up on that point to cohen for's question. tell us why in poll after poll,

people think this man, donald trump is better on the economy than president biden who is bringing down inflation and bringing gas prices down and leveling up wages. >> going after corporate greed. making it easier for people to afford relationship with their banks and cutting back on fees. what is the disconnect quick not just with the ceos but average americans out there looking at this and saying, donald trump is better on the economy than this other guy biden? >> i'm going to scare all of you and get a little philosophical and i know this probably terrifies some of you on the show. i think the far right media ecosystem is so much more effective than what democrats and republicans are trying to do right now. we talk about all these platforms and x. it is facebook centric when you get to the far right or into the maga population or individuals

looking at what is going on in the news today. if you think about the crop video of joe biden that was put up by the new york post and how it went viral, it is hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube when they lie like that and the far right ecosystem does those types of things. it just cascades so much better than what you are doing this morning. you are trying to present facts and data. trying to look at this in a nuanced way. there is no nuance on the right or far right. there is no new wants. it is what trump says goes. they are more dedicated to the mission. at some point, i think we need to realize and i hate to borrow from my good friend here but we have to realize that this is a political war. a war of hammer on hammer. >> to your point, the lies are not just about the economy but about the forthcoming election. i want you to take a listen to what trump had to say about election fraud at a turning point on saturday. >> in the state of california, they send out

38 million ballots. who the hell knows where they are going? they do. they go to a lot of democrat neighborhoods. you are told you can't win. i go to california and we have 100,000 people showing up. why would we lose california? it is so corrupt. the whole election process. >> there is a lot in there that is hard to follow. what he is doing fundamentally is setting up a structure where , when the election comes, if he does not win, he will say, i have been telling you for months that there was fraud, with no proof baked into the selection. >> january 6th of 2021 was a practice run. they are so much more prepared. what he is doing is setting up this conspiracists deep state gobbledygook as you say. but that is believed by tens of

millions of people. it has metastasized and i think you can conflate evil and stupid. i think both of those are equally bad. there is a saying in the military that if you get shot on purpose or you get shot on accident, you are still getting shot. and i think with the american people, that stupid has taken over. i'm not saying that tongue in cheek. i think this massive ecosystem, this ability for them to suck in a specific echo chamber of data day after day has really hurt the united states of america and i think we are trouble when it comes to those types of thought patterns. >> the rnc is launching a massive effort to monitor voting. people should be concerned. i would say, a bright spot may be for democrats that joe biden raked in $20 million last night in a fundraiser and that was just before the fundraiser got started. so in order to compete in an election cycle, you have to raise money and have infrastructure. and we shall see how this all shakes out. thank you so much.

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racist. to underscore the point, i'm not racist." trump visited church leaders in detroit launching a black leader coalition ahead of the november election. >> it is father's day. i'm going to limit the level of stupid here as much as i can. when you have to tell me that you have so many black friends. >> can people be racist and have black friends? >> yes they can. >> and it says something about that relationship. the reality is, i think we need to take this for what it is in it is more bs from the man who argued for and will argue to this day for the execution of five innocent young black men, the central park five, who look at the heritage that symone and i come from from the great continent of africa that

believe that in the face of the racism and the antagonisms that we still get from proud boys and kkk members, that there are fine people on both sides, so spare me the donald trump has black friends bs. it is sunday morning. and i don't want to have to go to church twice. so we will leave it there. >> how is it a defense for the racism? i think i would respect it more. if there is one thing i appreciate about what the premises, is they are clear. the proud boys are very clear. not trying to hide who you are. donald trump wants to put put a bunch of things in the pot and stir it up. and one day he wants to serve it to you this way and another way in a cup. i think he thinks it is working

but it is not. you can say whatever you want. he wants to say joe biden was the worst president for black people and the worst for hispanic people. there has never been anybody so bad. the civil rights movement would beg to differ. i think donald trump was pretty terrible. $60 billion for hbcus from the biden administration seems quite good. >> joe biden was not sued by the federal government because he refused to provide housing to black people. >> what did donald trump do for black businesses? >> donald trump has not done jack for black businesses. and during his four years, they like to tell, we did this little program where we did something in the community. were largely white businesses took advantage of that. very famously so. the reality is, what have you done? you can't just show up in a black church that have been

supporting you since 2016. those people on the stage were not converts. they were part of the 8% of black people that voted for donald trump. and i know some black people in my life that voted for donald trump. that is fine. >> just don't sit out there and act like this is groundswell in the community moving toward you because it is not. i think we need to stop pretending. we are at a point in this campaign where everybody just needs to stop pretending because when donald trump says joe biden has been the worst president for black and hispanic people and has never seen anyone so bad, you know it is a lie. stop pretending it is not. i think that we need to take his words straight on and not just say, you know, they did this and that. no. this is where the man is. very clear. others are very clear and he is not. >> he wants to be shady about

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republican shot down access to contraception. hours ago, state republicans voted against protecting ivf and just now donald trump endorsed larry hogan so we can have a republican majority." we have angela alsobrooks joining us. greetings to you. >> this is the maryland side. >> more specifically, prince george's county. >> this is absolutely right. >> larry hogan has been out and about making the case that the republicans can't count on his vote. the democrats can't count on his vote either. he will be a voice for maryland. what say you? >> mitch mcconnell and by the larry hogan into the race. they both said this. mitch mcconnell said this was the get of the year. what we know is that larry hogan, mitch mcconnell and now donald trump shareable. the goal is they want to take over the senate and have a majority in the central republicans. what we know about that, as mentioned from last week as we have already seen what that looks like it just this week,

voting against and codifying into federal law, ivf and the right to it. contraception last week. they share a vision for the state of maryland and the country that i have to tell you is an opposite of most marylanders. >> it will be at very interesting dynamic. no doubt about that. the reality for democrats and republicans is the senate, mitch mcconnell will not be there january 2025. there will be a new leadership there. closer to home, this race will be a competitive race. i have seen polling where you are slightly ahead i have seen polling where larry is ahead. among your own constituencies, larry is pulling 70% of for approval statewide. the challenge is that he was a good governor. he won as a republican twice in a blue state where he is outnumbered 2-1. how do you will, beyond the messaging on

abortion also message against a governor who was effective in his leadership and had support of a lot of the people who support you? >> i think maryland has recognized that the race is much larger with larry hogan. as you mentioned, people know and like him as governor. some people did. what we know is that the governor is different from the senate. and mitch mcconnell may not be the senate majority leader but we are concerned that lindsey graham could be cherub judiciary. and all of us recognize what that would be if we were to again, allow another justice on the supreme court, conservative justice, and we know larry hogan will be voting with the republican caucus. >> do you really? >> it doesn't strike me as he is a go a long to get along guy. >> let's take him for his word. he said a couple of months ago and response to question, will

you vote with the republican caucus, he said absolutely. i'm a lifelong republican. and he is. so he recognized voting on issues of concern. i don't have any doubt that larry hogan would vote to confirm another conservative supreme court justice. and we know that sensible gun legislation is concerned where a woman's right to choose his concern. we know he would be voting in many instances and ways that would be opposite of what marylanders believe. it is of concern. no one has to be convinced very hogan is not a good person. i like larry hogan. i worked well with him as county executive. the election is about the future. the vision we have, whether or not my daughter, at 19, will have to decide where to live in the country based on where she might have rights is a real issue. a serious issue. i talk to young people who are concerned about the economy and asking whether or not they can afford to buy a home or whether or not they will be able to have the basic necessities of life.

is about the future and which vision of it should be controlled. i believe the vision for our state and our country is one shared by democrats. >> it was brought into stark relief last week. this on the ruling upon stocks. this strikes down a commonsense gun safety regulation and underscores the stakes this november. trump says we need to get over mass shootings and bow down to the gun lobby. joe biden and i thought to pass significant gun safety legislation. we support the assault weapons ban. i wonder beyond repo rights and be on the question of gun safety, what you see as the stakes of this coming election? >> they could not be any higher. where the supreme court struck down the ban on bump stocks. we again are looking at an

epidemic and our country around gun violence that has spread all across the country. there is no space in the country that is safe against this violence we have seen or even so, we have a conservative court. we know that if we allow the republicans to take over and have the majority, they would appoint more conservative justices where we might see legislation such as that. in so many different areas, we know they could not be more at stake. many other issues also, the vision we have with this, republican party where we had sensible immigration legislation and bipartisan legislation that everybody agreed on and donald trump who said i don't want a solution. i want a crisis. i believe this is in the best interest of my reelection and we shouldn't have a solution to the issue but a crisis. we can't afford more of that kind of inertia. and moving backwards. we want to move forward. and we want a future and a vision for the future and that

is when we just disagree about. >> how do you handle in the race ask what i love about the dynamic is you mentioned larry being the governor running for the senate being different. it is different for you too. you were county executive of the county of a hundred plus thousand people. with local issues that get touched on by federal policy and guns being won. how do you see marrying up narratives around issues that still dog you with education, the education crisis in prince george's county and the school board and you know all that drama, right. and the crime issue in the county. how do you translate that as a county executive in the federal policy? >> is climb up in prince george's county? >> they are actually down 13%

this year. what i can tell you is this. i have experienced practical experience. i don't think i speak theoretically in the senate about what it requires to bring down crime. i can talk about my work as a state's attorney for example, during a time when i was elected prosecutor and i oversaw 50% cut in violent crime. education, we recognize that we have had challenges for many years. i have funded education at the highest levels we have seen in the history of our county and built 10 schools in the last three years. the business of educating children requires government investment and also requires families. it is an effort that requires all of us and i will continue speaking that way in the senate. when i move to make sure we have funding so your zip code does not determine the quality of your education. title i funding. i will be able to talk about healthcare and talk about, i think president biden has done a great job on capping the cost of insulin. i have work to expand healthcare access. built of the first of its kind cancer center in prince

george's county and the first of its kind mental health and addictions care facility. these are issues i will take to the senate to continue to build on the record of investing in families and offering a first chance of success. we often hear about second chances. i believe the country owes every family the first chance of success, bringing the fbi to headquarters. >> we have to go but the baltimore port reopened after the tragic collapse of the francis scott key bridge. >> we just complement our governor on his work in the federal delegation. they got to work expeditiously to reopen the port and i look forward to continuing to work with them. i mentioned fbi headquarters and bringing that back to maryland. i did that in collaboration with the senator and congressman and others and i will consider working with them and others to bring back resources to maryland to keep building our economy.

>> prince george's county executive angela alsobrooks, thank you for coming in and sharing what is happening in the great state of maryland. >> the booking team and i have invited larry hogan to join us here on the weekend. larry, there is a seat at the table for you, my friend. please come in and enjoy the conversation with us. we are still waiting to hear back from you, bro. this week, we could see the supreme court decide its first abortion case in saddam's decision. what is on the line? that is next. you are watching "over the weekend." explore the world the viking way fwith no children and nof ecasinos.mall ships we actually have reinvented ocean voyages, designing all-inclusive experiences for the thinking person. viking - voted world's best by both travel + leisure and condé nast traveler. learn more at viking.com.

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ask your doctor about dovato. this week, we can see another abortion ruling from the supreme court. this time on the idaho abortion ban. the court will decide whether the ban violates a federal law that requires hospitals to stabilize patient as well as with lifesaving conditions. law prohibits abortions except for her and rap but not the health of the mother. we have more now. >> january 4th is the anniversary of the dobbs decision. i want everyone to know because there were questions in the brief. >> talk about the distinction of being able to save a woman's

life when she is on death store versus being able to save her health and in many cases reproductive health. >> in reality, there is not really a distinction what we are seeing is that people are showing up in emergency rooms and not getting the care they need and they are leaving and putting themselves and their lives and future reproductive health in jeopardy. we have a client where that happened. she started out in missouri to get the care she needed. she did of going to kansas to get the care she needed and denied there and had to go all the way to illinois. all along the way, when you are in that situation and not getting emergency care, you are putting yourself at risk for sepsis and for bruising oregon's -- organs. >> what was the argument made. i watch the oral arguments on this. i found it hard to follow.

are they suggesting women that need emergency care, is that emergency care includes abortion, they should not be able to get it if you can save the baby. but if you need emergency care, the baby will be saved. >> what they were saying in that argument and i was in the room. i have to say that the entire room was stunned by the state of argo -- idaho's arguments. he basically said that up until the moment of death, that was the standard and that that was okay. and they gave hypotheticals. if you were going to end of having a condition that would leave you on dialysis for the rest of your life or if you eventually were going to lose your reproductive organs, they thought that was okay. and that is not how care works. the thing is, in this country, we have, for basically 40 years, had a law that says, if you show up in an emergency room, that you can get medical

lifesaving stabilizing care and that is true no matter the condition. they don't ask how you got here. doctors just provided. what they are trying to say is that you are pregnant, we could actually make it so that you almost die. and they may not get it right. the mortality crisis in maternal, especially black or indigenous women, is already skyhigh. >> i'm glad you raised that. i will put it this way. you have been tracking since dobbs, the impact this is having, not just on women's health but on mortality rates as well. how women are impacted in terms of these decisions does really matter. and i still don't understand how we get to a place as a nation where our government decides whether you live or die? as a woman but not as a human. because men, we walk

differently. you know, we don't have that problem. but our wives and sisters and mothers do. where the government is telling them, i'm sorry but you have to lie on that gurney until you get five and half minutes from death before we decide to treat you. is that really the state of where we are right now? >> it tells me everything i need to know about their agenda. their agenda is not about life. their agenda is about controlling the lives of women in this country. i am clear on that. >> and they are doing that through reproductive. >> 100%. they have this very narrow idea and they want to enact it on every part of the country. that is not what people in this country want. >> they think we are just here to birth children. >> we pretty much heard that. >> that is a different

conversation when you throw in ivf. >> take a listen to what the vice president had to say about the supreme court. >> two thirds of women of reproductive age in america live in a state with a trump abortion ban. this ruling will not change that. it is not going to change the fact that trump's allies have a plan that if all else fails, to eliminate medication abortion through executive action. so we must remain clear about the threats to reproductive freedom in america and we must remain vigilant. >> what does it mean to be clear and vigilant? >> we know exactly what they are coming for. and in this opinion, justice kavanaugh said, listen, let's take it to congress or take it to the administration. it is clearly on the agenda and project 2025 is the heritage foundation's project of what

they expect the republican president to do, has said they would like the fda to revisit access to medication abortion. they have a plan to revive the concept act which is this 150- year-old law that has not been used. they are going to go after it using everything they can. the other thing is, this case should have never gotten this far. it was wacky to begin with. it was based on faulty legal arguments and faulty science. they are still coming. >> and it was just procedural grounds that they rejected. nothing about the merits of the argument. >> as always, thank you so much for waking up with us. another hour of the weekend straight ahead including legal analyst glenn kirchner and gerry connolly. all coming up right here on the weekend. weekend. revent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you.

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